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A Look at Some Footlocker & NXN Speed Ratings 2012

by Bill Meylan (December 19, 2012)

 

This article is intended for viewers having a serious interest in the speed ratings I derive for the Footlocker and NXN National races ... Some viewers wonder about the earlier seasonal speed ratings of runners competing at Footlocker and NXN, and how those earlier speed ratings figure into my ratings for the national races ... Some want to know if I have compilations of speed ratings for the runners not in New York State.

Also some questions about direct comparisons between Footlocker and NXN National ratings ... I will start by showing the numbers of just the runners that competed in both the Footlocker and NXN National races.

Runners That Ran Both Footlocker & NXN Nationals in 2012 ... The table below lists the 12 runners that ran both Footlocker and NXN in 2012 along with their respective places, times and ratings for both ... In addition, it lists their "speed ratings entering Footlocker and NXN Nationals" (which are placed in most recent order as in Footlocker regional, NXN regional, State Meet and so-on ... I do not have complete speed rating histories of most runners except NY runners, so I can only list the speed ratings I have, which are sufficient for my purposes).

Gr

School

St

FL Place FL Time NXN Place NXN Time FL Rating NXN Rating

Speed Ratings entering FL & NXN Nationals

BOYS

Jake Leingang

12

Bismarck

ND 3 15:07 59 18:14 204 177

195 197 192 194 185

Sam Wharton

12

Tippecanoe

OH 6 15:19 1 17:06 200 200

195 193 192 189

Ryan Kromer

12

Hudson

WI 8 15:30 9 17:25 197 194

191 191 189 191

Robert Domanic

12

Hebron

TX 15 15:40 5 17:22 194 195

191 193 195 186 177

Scott Milling

12

York

IL 27 15:53 27 17:46 189 187

191 189 187 173 170

GIRLS

Maria Hauger

12

Shakopee

MN

3 17:30 14 20:01 157 145

152 151 148 151

Karis Jochen

12

A&M Consolidated

TX

5 17:36 5 19:42 155 151

148 150 150 150 144

Bobbie Burgess

12

West Lafayette

IN

9 17:46 30 20:23 152 137

142 141 141 141

Sandie Raines

12

Kingwood

TX

11 17:53 32 20:26 150 136

146 146 146 146 140 139 139

Taylor Werner

9

Ste. Genevieve

MO

13 17:53 40 20:34 150 134

152 143 142 150

Courtney Ackerman

12

New Trier

IL

17 18:02 6 19:43 147 151

150 142 143 140 139 139

Alex Davis

12

Plainview

OK

26 18:20 38 20:31 140 135

146 143 141

Looking at the Boys above ... Four of the five guys had speed ratings that were reasonable similar for both national meets ... the exception was Jake Leingang who had his worst race of year at NXN and his best race of the year at Footlocker (stuff does happen) ... as noted by the ratings entering the national meets, 4 of the 5 guys ran up to form (or slightly better) at NXN and all five ran well at Footlocker with Leingang and Kromer having speed rating PRs.

Looking at the Girls above ... Based on observation over the years, when the conditions of a race are very slow, or difficult, or extreme (such as Portland Meadows in 2012), the speed ratings of girls are generally affected more than boys ... 5 of the 7 Footlocker girls had their lowest speed rating of the year at NXN Portland Meadows ... in contrast, 4 of the 7 girls set speed rating PRs at Footlocker Nationals.

NXN - Footlocker ... Both national races are 5000 meters in distance ... BUT look at the race times above for these elite national runners ... NXN was much slower (minutes slower) due to the extreme conditions of the Portland Meadows course ... This makes the speed rating comparison something of an "apples-to-oranges" comparison even though the math and stats may be accurate ... extreme conditions affect runners differently as noted in the small sample above, but that's something handicappers need to evaluate on an individual basis.

As I have noted in most of my NXN National predictions, years of observation show that most teams and individuals will NOT have their best race of the year at NXN for various reasons ... Many runners will have NXN speed ratings lower than the individual runner projections based on speed ratings entering NXN ... NXN 2012 was especially bad in this regard ... I was going to post some compilations, but I found it too depressing for such a quality national event ... Overall ratings of team members entering NXN Nationals are available from the NXN Prediction page and compiled ratings at Portland Meadows by team are available on NXN 2012 Results page.

NXN Rating Strategy ... Even from the very beginning of NXN, I have applied  the well known concept of horse races in the mud - horses that race poorly in the mud do exactly that, they run slow and poorly relative to other horses (and their speed ratings must reflect that) ... Do not assume they run "average" if, in  fact, they run poorly.

As with all high school cross country races at this point of the season, my initial speed ratings are determined by a direct graphical and statistical comparison of the current race to same race in previous years that have known race adjustments ... Therefore, I compared NXN 2012 to NXN 2011, 2010, 2009 and 2008 (all had team + individual runners) and derived an initial race adjustment ... I then identified the individual runners in 2012 that seemed to run relatively "typical" races for them individually (and excluded all runners that ran poorly) and derived a second race adjustment using these individual runners ... The two different race adjustments differed by only 3 seconds, so I averaged them and the final speed ratings were calculated.

NXN - Footlocker Boys ... 3 of the 5 guys finished in the top 9 at NXN Nationals ... all 3 equaled or exceeded their best speed rating coming into the race which is consistent with those finishing positions ... The NXN winner (Sam Wharton) had a 200 speed rating (a PR by 5 points) which he equaled at Footlocker.

Five guys entered NXN Nationals having already achieved an individual speed rating of 197 or higher ... 3 of those 5 guys (Nick Ryan, Bernie Montoya and Jake Leingang) had their worst speed rating of the year at NXN Portland Meadows ... the other two (Joe Hardy and Kai Wilmot) finished 4th and 32nd (that may have been Wilmot's lowest as well, but he entered NXN coming off an injury).

In contrast ... 6 guys entered Footlocker Finals having achieved an individual speed rating of 197 or higher prior to NXN and Footlocker ... 5 of those 6 guys took the top 5 places at Balboa Park (and 6th at Footlocker was Sam Wharton who achieved a 200 rating at NXN) ... Apparently form held up a little bit better at Footlocker.

Footlocker Is Unique

Speed rating the Footlocker National race was an interesting "research project" when I initially decided to evaluate the race back in 2001 ... The race is different than all other high school cross country races for two major reasons:
... (1) Limited to Elite runners who have qualified
... (2) Limited to only 32 or 40 runners

This makes the race unique ... that means it can only be profiled by itself (which means it can only be compared to itself via prior year's races), and that requires background data on both the race and the individuals who were in the race.

My Footlocker speed ratings for 1997-2012 are listed on a Footlocker speed rating page (along with the best ratings since 1982).

The ratings look a bit high compared to in-season speed ratings ... That's the major question I get from viewers and coaches.

The ratings looked high to me as well in my initial research, BUT I also realized the race is unique ... A small elite-only field of runners competing in a championship race with good weather and good course conditions plus media and sponsor attention ... This encourages runners to run fast ... The best runners will be challenged and will need to run their best to win ... The high quality of the runners encourages runners to get "pulled-along" to their fastest performances ever ... and that's precisely what I was seeing in the results ... Not that much different from elite runners competing in track races ... The top runners finish very fast while the middle and back runners have more "normal" performances (or maybe a bit slow at the end) ... And that's how I profile Footlocker Finals.

Tables of the Girls Footlocker Ratings for 2012 and Boys Footlocker Ratings for 2012 are listed below with their available speed ratings entering the two national races.

Footlocker Girls ... The initial race adjustment via direct comparison to previous year's Footlocker results looked consistent with race adjustments for Balboa Park ... Being from NY, I looked at the three NY girls (21st, 25th and 31st) and saw their speed ratings were a bit lower than their "overall" NY ratings which is consistent with those finish places ... After looking at all runners individual seasonal ratings, I lowered the initial adjustment by one point (so Anna Rohrer went from 160 to 159).

Over half the girls' field had already achieved a speed rating better than or equal to their Footlocker rating (mostly better) ... 6 of the top 8 finishers entered Footlocker with ratings of 150-156, so the Footlocker ratings of 153-159 are consistent with those finishes.

Footlocker Boys ... 25 of 39 guys had already achieved a speed rating better than or equal to their Footlocker rating (mostly better) ... Edward Cheserek had the best rating (207), but he exceeded that rating on several occasions last year ... Fairly common overall results for the boys.

 

Girls Footlocker Ratings - 2012

PL Name Gr School St Footlocker Time FL Rating NXN Rating Ratings entering FL & NXN Nationals
1 Anna Rohrer 10 Mishawaka IN 17:25 159 --- 156 154 144 147
2 Catarina Rocha 12 Peabody MA 17:29 157 --- 156 147
3 Maria Hauger 12 Shakopee MN 17:30 157 144 152 151 148 151
4 Jordyn Colter 10 Cherry Creek CO 17:30 157 --- 151 151 155
5 Karis Jochen 12 A&M Consolidated TX 17:36 155 151 148 150 150 150 144
6 Sophie Chase 12 Lake Braddock VA 17:42 153 --- 148 147 141 141
7 Anna Holdiman 12 Waverly-Shell IA 17:43 153 --- 143 133 136
8 Marissa Williams 10 Palisades Charter CA 17:43 153 --- 153 131 138 145 128
9 Bobbie Burgess 12 West Lafayette IN 17:46 152 137 142 141 141 141
10 Hannah Long 10 Eureka MO 17:47 152 --- 143 147 144 148
11 Sandie Raines 12 Kingwood TX 17:53 150 136 146 146 146 146 140 139 139
12 Carmen Carlos 12 McGill-Toolen AL 17:53 150 --- 146 153 143
13 Taylor Werner 9 Ste. Genevieve MO 17:53 150 134 152 143 142 150
14 Megan Curham 12 Villa Walsh NJ 17:56 149 --- 149 139 140 138 128
15 Bridget Blake 12 Dr. Phillips FL 17:56 148 --- 146 135 121
16 Caroline Alcorta 11 West Springfield VA 17:57 148 --- 144 140 135
17 Courtney Ackerman 12 New Trier IL 18:02 147 151 150 142 143 140 139 139
18 Marisa Ruskan 12 Bridgewater-Rar NJ 18:04 146 --- 141 139 139 133 119
19 Regan Rome 11 Dallas PA 18:04 146 --- 148 123 133 129
20 Julia Maxwell 11 Branson CA 18:04 146 --- 143 147 146 144
21 Katie Lembo 11 Penfield NY 18:05 145 --- 148 145 146 143 147 146 149 145 144 136
22 Maggie Drazba 12 St. Marys WV 18:06 145 --- 147 147 145
23 Madeleine Ankhelyi 12 Vista del Lago CA 18:07 145 --- 136 137 144 139
24 Makena Morley 10 Bigfork MT 18:12 143 --- 142 132 141
25 Marissa Saenger 11 Clarence NY 18:18 141 --- 142 149 133 139 138 141 131 132
26 Alex Davis 12 Plainview OK 18:20 140 135 146 143 141
27 Mackenzie Barry 11 West Morris Mend NJ 18:21 140 --- 144 141 137 130
28 Summer Harper 12 Orem UT 18:22 140 --- 133 124 140 124 132
29 Paige Gilchrist 12 Hellgate MT 18:23 139 --- 142 140 133
30 Amelia Paladino 11 University WV 18:26 139 --- 139 137 132
31 Megan Reilly 9 Warwick Valley NY 18:26 139 --- 140 137 152 147 143 146 135 136
32 Sarah Feeny 11 Ogden UT 18:31 137 --- 131 131 130 137
33 Allie Klimkiewicz 10 Oakton VA 18:33 136 --- 140 126 137
34 Kaylee Flanagan 12 Lake Park IL 18:35 135 --- 143 139 144 145
35 Melanie Nun 12 Legacy CO 18:37 135 --- 141 133 114 116
36 Katelyn Bianchini 12 Glacier Peak WA 18:42 133 --- 136 138 135
37 Kennedy Weisner 11 Elk County Cath PA 19:00 127 --- 140 138 148 136
38 Kayla Ferron 12 Redondo Union CA 19:00 127 --- 131 133 130 124 120 118

 

Boys Footlocker Ratings - 2012

PL Name Gr School St Footlocker Time FL Rating NXN Rating Ratings entering FL & NXN Nationals
1 Edward Cheserek 12 St. Benedict's NJ 14:59 207 --- 203 201
2 Sean McGorty 12 Chantilly VA 15:05 205 --- 201 198 196 198 189
3 Jake Leingang 12 Bismarck ND 15:07 204 177 195 197 192 194 185
4 Benjamin Saarel 12 Park City UT 15:13 202 --- 198 192 194 198 184
5 Jacob Thomson 12 Holy Cross KY 15:14 202 --- 191 200 198 191 185 185
6 Sam Wharton 12 Tippecanoe OH 15:19 200 200 195 193 192 189
7 Aaron Templeton 11 Hardin Valley TN 15:29 197 --- 192 190 192
8 Ryan Kromer 12 Hudson WI 15:30 197 194 191 191 189 191
9 John Lawson 12 Sir Francis Drake CA 15:31 196 --- 195 182 181 185
10 Zach Perrin 12 Flathead MT 15:32 196 --- 191 191 183
11 Andrew Gardner 12 Mead WA 15:34 195 --- 193 196 195 193
12 Conner Mantz 10 Sky View UT 15:34 195 --- 193 187 190 181
13 Quintin McKinnish 11 Morristown-West TN 15:36 195 --- 190 190 188
14 John Dressel 10 Mt. Spokane WA 15:37 194 --- 193 189 187 185 185 182
15 Robert Domanic 12 Hebron TX 15:40 194 195 191 193 195 186 177
16 Kramer Morton 11 Alta UT 15:41 193 --- 191 181 189 184 182
17 Max Norris 12 Harriton PA 15:41 193 --- 194 187 183
18 Troy Fraley 12 Glacier MT 15:42 193 --- 195 186 187
19 Patrick Perrier 11 O'Fallon IL 15:43 192 --- 193 187 189 185 182
20 Nicholas Raymond 12 Erie Mason MI 15:44 192 --- 193 190
21 Brendan Shearn 12 North Schuylkill PA 15:44 192 --- 195 186 184 183 186
22 Jonathan Green 12 St. John's MA 15:45 192 --- 198 197 192 190 188
23 Shawn Wilson 12 Cherokee NJ 15:45 192 --- 196 192 184
24 Patrick Gibson 12 Squalicum WA 15:46 191 --- 191 189 192
25 Brent Demarest 11 Porter-Gaud SC 15:48 191 --- 188 195
26 Grant Nykaza 12 Beecher IL 15:51 190 --- 193 187 187
27 Scott Milling 12 York IL 15:53 189 187 191 189 187 173 170
28 Kyle Kroon 11 Toms River South NJ 15:56 188 --- 195 190 187
29 Connor Mora 12 Cedar Springs MI 15:58 187 --- 191 190
30 Nicholas Elswick 11 Chardon OH 15:59 187 --- 190 187
31 Apolinar Baltazar 12 Aberdeen WA 16:00 187 --- 190 191
32 Austin Pondel 12 Corry Area PA 16:00 187 --- 193 188
33 Samuel Prakel 12 Versailles OH 16:03 186 --- 193 192 189
34 Brent Kennedy 11 Kiski Area PA 16:07 185 --- 193 190 188
35 Brad Hort 12 McIntosh GA 16:09 184 --- 190 185
36 Noah Gade 12 Stillwater OK 16:11 183 --- 189
37 Simon Holden 12 Baylor School TN 16:16 181 --- 189 186 189
38 Trevor Crawley 12 Cumberland RI 16:19 181 --- 194 188 189 185
39 Chris Alvarado 11 Fairfield CT 16:28 177 --- 194 180 180

 

 

 

 

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