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Footlocker & NXN 2019 - Some Speed Rating Data & Thoughts

Bill Meylan ... (December 22, 2019)


I get inquiries every year about the speed ratings for NXN and Foot Locker Nationals ... This year brought more than normal inquiries and comments due primarily to the 169.0 speed rating for Zofia Dudek at Foot Locker ... This did not surprise me, but some of the comments did.

My biggest surprise was two perennial skeptics who grudgingly admitted that "Meylan's inflated Foot Locker speed ratings might actually be close for once (and only once)" ... My explanation of speed ratings and power-of-persuasion had nothing to do with it ... Three girls running sub-17:00 on the Balboa course (Dudek running 16:45.0) was a piece of evidence they accept and could not ignore or explain away ... A small glimmer of belief in the speed ratings due to absolute race times on a specific course ... and my speed rating process of relative times ignores course-record type data when deriving speed ratings ... There will always be skeptics and that is a good thing.

Meylan's Opinion:


Comparing NXN and Foot Locker 2019

Below is a table listing the 18 runners that competed in both NXN and Foot Locker 2019 (10 boys and 8 girls) ... 22.5% of the Foot Locker field was comprised of runners that ran at NXN Nationals ... that's a decent percentage considering that many runners don't have the opportunity of competing at both NXN and Foot Locker regional races ... NXN's individual At-Large bids did help.

The table shows the respective NXN and Foot Locker speed ratings and finish positions with season-best and 2nd-season best speed rating ... The table highlights the runners who had speed ratings that varied by 4 or more points between NXN and Foot Locker.

Four boys have better highlighted speed ratings at NXN and four have better highlighted speed ratings at Foot Locker ... two boys were within one speed rating point at both races ... the 4 guys who raced better at Foot Locker all finished in the top 9 places at Foot Locker, while at NXN they finished 24th, 26th, 33rd and 44th ... their 2nd-best seasonal speed ratings indicate their Foot Locker ratings were not major deviations from expected potential ... Nothing that suggests inflated Foot Locker speed ratings versus NXN.

For the girls, 2 of the 8 girls have speed ratings equal or within 2 points at both races ... 2 have higher highlighted races at NXN and 4 have higher highlighted races at Foot Locker ... Katelynne Hart is an outlier in this regard (an off race at NXN), and her seasonal-best speed rating (159.37) occurred at NXN Midwest (and not Foot Locker which was 159.20) ... Riley Stewart had several seasonal speed ratings higher than her Foot Locker rating.

Of the 18 data points, Marlee Starliper's 168 rating at Foot Locker is the only data point that suggests any potential of inflated ratings at Foot Locker, and she did have a 163 speed rating at Foot Locker Northeast ... Overall, this comparison simply indicates that Marlee Starliper had an excellent season-best performance at Foot Locker, and as one of the skeptics noted, "her 16:46.8 time speaks for itself".


Runners That Ran Both NXN & Foot Locker
          Season Season
    NXN Foot Locker   Best 2nd-Best
Boys NXN Speed Speed FL Speed Speed
  Place Rating Rating Place Rating Rating
Josh Methner        2 200 201 1 201 200
Liam Murphy         8 198 186 25 198 198
Jack Spamer         17 194 190 19 194 192
Bob Liking          19 192 186 24 192 192
Kevin Antczak       24 190 196 8 196 194
Judson Greer        26 190 197 5 197 194
Evan Bishop         33 189 196 6 196 193
Brendan Favazza     39 188 189 20 192 192
Jack Jennings       44 187 194 9 199 194
Michael Hancock     48 185 180 32 193 189
Taylor Ewert        2 163 159 6 163 159
Marlee Starliper    5 157 168 2 168 163
Annalyssa Crain     16 149 149 12 149 149
Tatum David         17 149 151 10 153 152
Kelsey Harrington   20 148 143 21 151 151
Analee Weaver       29 143 147 14 147 143
Riley Stewart       31 141 145 17 152 149
Katelynne Hart      50 134 159 4 159 159


Speed Adjustment Comparison for NXN and Foot Locker 2019

One common inquiry involves my race adjustment for calculating the NXN and Foot Locker speed ratings.

Biggest inquiry this year was about the cold rainy conditions at NXN with the boys racing first and messing up the course for girls ... One email said the course was in awful condition after the boy's race and getting worse with continuing rain.

Deteriorating muddy, slippery, sloppy conditions is difficult for both the runners and anybody deriving the speed ratings ... Under normal dry average conditions, the speed rating adjustments are derived separately but in conjunction with both the boy's and girl's races to yield final speed ratings that consider both races together ... Deteriorating conditions require total separation and independent adjustments.

Quick answer to a common inquiry -  By my calculations, the Glendoveer course ran 21 seconds slower for the girls compared to the boys ... Yes, it does make a difference who runs first on these types of courses ... So Katelyn Tuohy's winning time of 17:18.4 was equivalent to a time of 16:57.4 in the boy's race ... and this can be seen from the NXN speed ratings .... (my Foot Locker speed ratings at this link).


Graphical Profile Comparison - Boys NXN and Foot Locker

I love graphic illustration at data ... The graph below plots the raw data from the Boy's NXN and Foot Locker races for the top 40 finishers (meaning all Foot Locker runners and just the top 40 from NXN).

Some things to consider:

The relative speed difference between the two races is read at the Y-axis (directly above the 900 second race time label because that is the convergence point) ... the difference is about 6 seconds ... meaning that, despite the slippery conditions, the overall speed of the NXN course was 6 seconds faster than the Balboa course in 2019 ... So Nico Young's NXN time of 14:52.3 would be equivalent to a time of 14:58.3 at the Balboa race.

The inherent speed of the Foot Locker Balboa course under fast conditions in recent years is fairly consistent ... for my speed rating adjustments, the Balboa course for the boys was negative 48 seconds (meaning I add 48 seconds to the actual race times to calculate the speed ratings) ... the Boy's Glendoveer course adjustment was negative 54 seconds.

I would love to tell you the inherent speed of the Glendoveer course under good dry weather conditions, but who the heck knows???

Side-Note ... the Balboa course is not a fast 5K course ... It runs similar to the Holmdel NJ course (when Holmdel runs fast), and remember that Katelyn Tuohy ran 16:21.0 there in 2018 (for a 177 speed rating when the race adjustment was negative 51 seconds) ..... Woodward Park had a race adjustment of negative 87 seconds at the California State Meet in 2019, so Nico Young's NXN performance was equivalent to Woodward Park race time of 14:19.3 at the CA State Meet.

Other Important Side-Note ... The Foot Locker race had not yet occurred when I speed-rated NXN ... But when I speed-rated Foot Locker, I did include the NXN race as one of five races for graphical profile matching (with 4 previous Foot Locker races) ... This gave me the approximate race adjustment used as the starting point to iterate the individual runner seasonal speed ratings to find the convergence point from that data which agreed with the graphical solution.

And for those interested in the technical aspects of speed rating, I have never published a description of my individual runner seasonal speed rating iteration method ... That may appear in the coming months ... But for those able to identify and exclude outlier data, you can probably do it already without any help from me ... Various methods could reproduce the same results ... And there are some coaches in NY quite adept at just looking at race results knowing the previous speed ratings of some of the runners and coming up with the approximate speed ratings for the race in question ... I simply do a more complete analysis using databases and some adapted stat methods.


Graphical Profile Comparison - Girls NXN and Foot Locker

The graph below plots the raw data from the Girl's NXN and Foot Locker races for the top 40 finishers (meaning all Foot Locker runners and just the top 40 from NXN).

Some things to consider:

My final race adjustments for the girls were negative 33 seconds at NXN and negative 48 seconds at Foot Locker (boy's Foot Locker came out exactly the same as the girl's) ... This means the NXN course ran 15 seconds slower for the girls than than the Foot Locker course as illustrated above.

The graph below adjusts the NXN times by subtracting 15 seconds to approximate equivalency with Foot Locker and excludes the slower 25% of Foot Locker runners ... This makes the correlation easier to see.


The reason for the higher speed ratings of the top three runners at Foot Locker is evident from the graph.


Random Thoughts

Katelyn Tuohy's win at NXN was one of the most impressive efforts I have ever seen ... and this comes from a long time horse handicapper ... Horse handicappers are very familiar with the term "Class" ... it's an important handicapping factor ... it is difficult to define in words.

Coming up the final hill to the finish-line at NXN, Kateyln Tuohy had been caught by Sydney Thorvaldson and Taylor Ewert ... Tuohy looked exhausted and beaten ... But in the final stretch run the "Class" in Kateyln Tuohy summoned an invisible energy and will-to-win that refuses to lose to runners she would normally beat handily ... and Kateyln Tuohy hung on to win despite an off performance ... Sometimes a near loss or loss demonstrates the remarkable ability of an exceptional athlete.


Track Bias ... Track Bias is another important important factor in horse handicapping ... Sometimes horses running at or near the front-end of a race have an advantage ... Sometimes closers have an advantage ... For example, the inside rail position at a track might be "more packed down and firmer" than other locations on the track and horses making the lead on the inside have an advantage because other horses have to move to the outside into the deeper and slower soil in order to pass.

The course conditions at NXN 2019 were conducive for a front-end bias advantage ... Wet, soft, muddy, slippery, sloppy conditions ... In my opinion, teams and runners "forwardly-placed" had an advantage ... Runners up front were better able to see and navigate to the potentially better footing locations.

The course was continually deteriorating ... and that means that runners in the same race were subjected to deteriorated conditions created by runners in front of them.

Just an opinionated generality:

To clarify ... I think the Saratoga Girls won by the margin they did was because:

That's enough Random Thoughts for now.