Pre-Season XC 2013
GIRLS Teams - National 2013
Bill Meylan (July 23, 2013)
| Girls - Potential National Contenders
My pre-season projection for National Girls Teams is listed below ... I do this each pre-season for my own interest. Purpose ... There is one purpose ... Get a general idea where the NY State teams rank overall ... I am primarily concerned about teams likely to compete in NXN (teams that have shown interest, have competed or may be expected to compete). To a large extent, the team listing below is an extension of the 2012 XC season into 2013 with a few modifications ... IF data for 5 runners on each team was not readily available (or guess-able), that team was probably NOT included ... This could exclude some good teams, but it does not matter because actual race results will identify those teams ... Once the real season starts, I tend to ignore the pre-season. My first criteria for this pre-season list is to consider teams that competed in the NXN Regional races ... Performance in NXN (both Regional & National) plus State Meets is the major focus (plus a few other major meets) because I am considering "championship" performance. Initially, I combined all potential teams in a single race scenario and began eliminating teams with the highest scores in an iterative process until I had 30 teams remaining ... The scores are listed below along with the teams just behind the top 30 scoring teams. Remember ... this list is just an
informational starting point ... Real 2013 race results are what count.
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Pre-Season Projection - Girls National Team Contenders - 2013
NXN
School State Score Region
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1 Fayetteville-Manlius NY 200 New York
2 Assumption KY 220 Southeast
3 Carmel IN 235 Midwest
4 Great Oak CA 240 California
5 Simi Valley CA 250 California
6 Holy Names NY 255 New York
7 Wayzata MN 270 Heartland
8 Pennsbury PA 300 Northeast
9 Naperville North IL 330 Midwest
10 Coeur D'Alene ID 335 Northwest
11 Fort Collins CO 355 Southwest
12 Glenbard West IL 375 Midwest
13 Saline MI 390 Midwest
14 Pleasant Valley IA 395 Heartland
15 St. Francis (sac) CA 400 California
16 Lake Braddock VA 410 Southeast
17 Unionville PA 415 Northeast
18 Burnt Hills NY 420 New York
19 Xavier College Prep AZ 425 Southwest
20 Saratoga NY 430 New York
21 Monarch CO 435 Southwest
22 Southlake Carroll TX 440 South
23 Saugus CA 450 California
24 Linn-Mar IA 455 Heartland
25 Arrowhead WI 460 Heartland
26 Providence NC 465 Southeast
27 Barrington RI 470 Northeast
28 Pine Creek CO 480 Southwest
29 Geneva IL 485 Midwest
30 American Fork UT 490 Southwest
The next group is basically in order following the
list above ... Many are very close and the order
could be shuffled a lot:
Davis UT Southwest (added Aug 29)
Camas WA Northwest
Tatnall DE Southeast
Serrano CA California
Cardinal Gibbons NC Southeast
Grosse Pointe South MI Midwest
Seaholm MI Midwest
Dowling Catholic IA Heartland
Capistrano Valley CA California
Coe-Brown NH Northeast
Yucaipa CA California
Sehome WA Northwest (added Aug 2)
Buchanan CA California
Mira Costa CA California
Lewisville Marcus TX South
Bonita CA California
Davis Sr. CA California
Bismarck ND Heartland
Voorhees NJ Northeast
Mountain Brook AL Southeast
O'Fallon IL Midwest
Bowling Green KY Southeast
Morgantown WV Southeast
Sandburg IL Midwest
Palatine IL Midwest
St. Mary's Academy OR Northwest
Traverse City MI Midwest
Central Bucks West PA Northeast
Dowling Catholic IA Heartland
Jesuit OR Northwest
Green Hope NC Southeast
Bishop Feehan MA Northeast
Liverpool NY New York
Mountain Crest UT Southwest
Classical Academy CO Southwest
Suffern NY New York
Edina MN Heartland
Neenah WI Heartland
The Woodlands TX South
Humble Kingwood TX South
Centerville OH Midwest
San Clemente CA California
St. Thomas Aquinas FL Southeast
*** I may have missed a team or two going through
my databases as quickly as I did
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Where did the scores come from?
... In part, the scores are a composite of computer race simulations using 2012 seasonal speed ratings
(sort of) ... a few speed rating ranges were altered
based on track results ... I manually manipulated some numbers (because
I had to
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Hopefully, the girl's list above
identifies many of the top teams entering the 2013 XC season in a reasonable order
... As a point of reference for last year, my 2012 pre-season
projections with corresponding results from NXN 2012 are
shown in a table below... Of the 22 teams at
NXN 2012, I did not identify 6 teams (they were unranked in the top 30
teams and not listed in the extra team list) ... 10 of the top 12 teams at NXN
teams were ranked in my pre-season top 22 teams ... I missed a NY team General Comments for the Coming Season: Fayetteville-Manlius ...
More info about FM is available from my
NY Pre-season Team Projections, and
detailed info on the top four FM runners entering the season is available from
my Top NY Girls Profiles ... Fayetteville-Manlius is the pre-season
favorite to win NXN once again because they won it the past 7 years Saratoga ... Saratoga gets my "benefit-of-the-doubt" for a top #20 ranking because of their success within NY and at NXN ... Saratoga loses their top two runners to graduation and lose their next runner via transfer to Holy Names ... Even though Saratoga appears much weaker in 2013, they've shown an ability in the past to "re-load" quickly ... As a remainder of success at NXN over the years, here are the Saratoga girl's finishes at Portland Meadows:
. NXN 2012 - 5th ..... I have a bias for teams with proven ability in the past ... 15 teams in this year's pre-season top 32 competed at NXN Nationals last year. Holy Names (or more correctly, Academy of the Holy Names in Albany, NY) ... Holy Names is ranked highly because they got a top transfer from Saratoga (Olivia Morrow) and they return a talented group of runners ... More info is available from my NY Pre-season Team Projections and Top NY Girls Profiles. Assumption KY returns their top 6 runners, and they finished 10th in the Portland Meadows slop last year. Carmel IN returns 6 of their 7 NXN runners including their top three ... Carmel finished an excellent 3rd at NXN last year, and they've finished in the top 7 the past three years. Great Oak CA returns 4 of their top five runners from last year, and Great Oak has a very deep team ... Their high ranking is justified by demonstrated XC performance in CA and trips outside CA during the season ... But Portland Meadows in December is not their "best" course. Simi Valley CA has Sarah
Baxter who will be the top-rated individual "high school" harrier in the nation ... starting a team score with a
"1" is really helpful. ... If rumors of new talent prove true,
Fayetteville-Manlius could be in trouble (if NXN was held at Mt Sac Southlake Carroll TX ... I did some guessing here due to graduations (they lost 3 of their top 4 to graduation) ... Southlake Carroll always seems to reload, so I placed them in the top 22, and I wouldn't be surprised if they do better (which I said last year). Burnt Hills NY ... Burnt Hills is in the same section and same class in NY as Holy Names which means only one of them can qualify for the NY State Meet ... It is entirely possible that Burnt Hills will not qualify as one of the 11 Class B teams to compete in the NY State Meet; but Burnt Hills will qualify or be selected to compete at NXN Nationals, and Burnt Hills will finish in the top ten at NXN Nationals ... Burnt Hills competed at NXN in 2007 and 2008 and finished 5th and 8th respectively.
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| Last Year's (2012) Girl's Pre-Season Projections ... and corresponding results with NXN Nationals |
NXN Finish Order at Last Year's
School State Score Region NXN 2012 Pre-Season Projection
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1 Fayetteville-Manlius NY 90 New York 1 Fayetteville-Manlius NY - #1 pre-season
2 Saratoga NY 265 New York 2 Southlake Carroll TX - #19 pre-season
3 Tatnall DE 270 Southeast 3 Carmel IN - #8 pre-season
4 Fort Collins CO 275 Southwest 4 East Aurora NY - unranked
5 New Trier IL 280 Midwest 5 Saratoga NY - #2 pre-season
6 Grosse Pointe South MI 290 Midwest 6 Tatnall ED - #3 pre-season
7 Holy Names NY 310 New York 7 Wayzata MN - unranked
8 Carmel IN 330 Midwest 8 Fort Collins CO - #4 pre-season
9 Simi Valley CA 335 California 9 Pennsbury PA - #20 pre-season
10 Monarch CO 340 Southwest 10 Assumption KY - #14 pre-season
11 Xavier College Prep AZ 350 Southwest 11 New Trier IL - #5 pre-season
12 Saugus CA 360 California 12 Davis UT - #22 pre-season
13 La Costa Canyon CA 365 California 13 Camas WA - #30+ group pre-season
14 Assumption KY 390 Southeast 14 Coeur D'Alene ID - #30+ group pre-season
15 Estero FL 410 Southeast 15 Naperville North IL - unranked
16 Saline MI 430 Midwest 16 Great Oak CA - #29 pre-season
17 Bozeman MT 440 Northwest 17 Saugus CA - #12 pre-season
18 Glacier Peak WA 445 Northwest 18 Pine Creek CO - unranked
19 Southlake Carroll TX 450 South 19 Eagan MN - unranked
20 Pennsbury PA 460 Northeast 20 St. Francis CA - #30+ group pre-season
21 Wheaton Warrenville S IL 470 Midwest 21 The Woodlands TX - unranked
22 Davis UT 475 Southwest 22 Voorhees NJ - #30+ group pre-season
23 Vista Del Lago CA 476 California
24 Bronxville NY 480 New York
25 Dowling Catholic IA 481 Heartland
26 Neenah WI 482 Heartland
27 Aptos CA 490 California
28 San Clemente CA 491 California
29 Great Oak CA 495 California
30 Burnt Hills NY 500 New York
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